An Interview with George Cosby

Lauren Edwards sat down with London based singer-songwriter George Cosby, and talked about his latest E.P, touring, and plans for the upcoming year.

Cosby released his second E.P, the rich and haunting, A Savage Kiss back on October 14th with Yucatan Records. He then joined Travis is a Tourist on Benjamin Francis Leftwich’s European Tour, before heading back to London for a few headline shows of his own. “Playing and touring with both those guys was a pleasure. I’m so happy I got to meet Travis on that tour, he’s a wonderful songwriter and a fantastic person. I can’t wait to see what he does next.” When I caught sight of them just under a month ago in Munich, the three shared a bond that even as an audience member was clearly visible, but speaking about Ben in particular, Cosby continues: “I’ve been lucky enough to get to know Ben in London and to be there watching him, night in, night out was an inspiring experience. When he’s on stage he has a magical quality to create a truly personal connection with the audience.” Carrying on to talk about the individual qualities each of them brought to the tour Cosby expresses “We’re all different in style, providing different shades across the evening” however, he continues to add their shared similarities in the way they create music: “I think we all approach writing from the same place and our outlook on music and art generally has a lot in common.”

I tell Cosby his music reminds me of the projective voice you’d usually find on stage singing the solos of a hit musical mixed with an element of 80’s ballads. He laughs, “I do love a good 80’s tune.” It’s this mix of deep vocals and soothing melodies that makes Cosby distinct in comparison to contemporary artists, so when I asked where his musical influences stemmed from he said: ” I try and draw influences from a wide variety of different era’s and genres. What’s so lovely about music and writing is you learn every day. I have discovered so many amazing artists recently who you pick up little bits and pieces from.” In a similar way that he complimented Ben he carries on to explain: “Every tour I do I come back having learned and had my eyes opened, I hope it always continues in the same vain!” Although, he’s inspired by those around him, Cosby gets stuck in picking out just one favourite artist: “Oh wow too many artists I admire. From a lyricism viewpoint Nick Cave and Leonard Cohen are up there. I love just reading through their writing. Recently I’ve been listening to a lot of Scott Walker and Serge Gainsborough. Some of the production on those records was quite fantastic.”

From artistic influences we moved on to talk about the aspirations behind the beautiful, A Savage Kiss and how creating this one differed from Human Touch: “I’ve been using these early E. P’s to experiment and really explore who I could be as an artist and Savage Kiss was an extension of the first E.P in that sense.” At this moment in time Cosby seems to be in no rush to push a debut album, but instead concentrates on grounding himself as an artist: “Through each release I want to push what I am doing and when I feel ready and confortable I hope there will be an album to release.” The majority of the time E.P’s tend to be a short glimpse of what’s to come, and for those who were a fan of Cosby’s first E.P another release with only three tracks comes as a bit of a blow: “I choose to do the 3 tracks for those two E. P’s I think purely just because it felt right at the time. I might change it up for the next….” Let’s hope by this Cosby means a full album.

If you’re lucky enough to catch Cosby in concert, you won’t be surprised that the powerful vocals you get on record are conducted just as good live, the stillness of the gig back in early October shows the degree in which Cosby’s voice draws audiences in. I asked him if he aims to make his listeners feel something in a similar way he takes some thing from listening to musicians like Leonard Cohen: “Most definitely, my favourite artists, and the ones who I truly form a long lasting connection with, are the ones who have really made me feel something, whether that’s happy or sad.” It was almost as if this statement trigged his own nostalgia, as he adds: “I’ll never forget Bon Iver’s first record. I can even remember exactly where I was when I first listened from start to finish. It’s quite special when that happens.”

Through the interview it’s obvious that Cosby is perfectly happy in taking his time in developing as a musician, and finding his own individual sound through those who inspire him. He mentions: “Finding a sound and your voice is by no means an easy thing to achieve, and yes I think its very important to take the time to feel comfortable with your direction as an artist, especially if you are more independently led.” Cosby points out the importance of taking it slow, even if this does mean gradually gaining a fan base “Just like any other career it takes a lot of hard work to develop and grow your abilities.” Through touring with other musicians with a similar sound, and progressively working on his own Cosby says: “What is fantastic and exciting is that during this time you’re able to play live and start to pick up a fan base. Hopefully this early bunch will be excited to follow you as your career progresses.” It’s this humble approach to his music that makes Cosby so likeable and his music so enticing. As a listener you feel a sense of understanding of the creation process and the hard work that has gone into creating each piece.

To round off our chat, influenced mostly by legendary musicians who’s lyrics are basically poetry, I was eager to find out who Cosby if he could choose from anybody would co-write a song with. To this he answered almost immediately: “Paul Simon. Just an unbelievable writer who has penned classics which are as relevant now as they were when released and I’m sure they’ll remain so for all of time. To me that is true artistry.”

With 2017 soon around the corner I was hoping for a preview of what Cosby’s New Year was going to look like, but instead he leaves fans with the vague statement: “I’m very excited about next year and releasing new music. I don’t have too much to tell you just yet but it should be busy!”

You can listen to George Cosby’s new E.P A Savage Kiss over on iTunes, Spotify and Soundcloud.

Top Tips from R1 Academy’s Creative Futures Event

Here’s a few top tips we learnt at last nights Q&A session with Industry leaders at the Creative Futures Event hosted at Exeter College:

1. Work Experience

The most common question from young adults, but what does it mean? Do you have to have work experience in order to get a job?  In short, in the creative industry experience is invaluable. You’re working in an industry that is constantly changing, constantly developing and looking for something fresh. Creativity stems from your surroundings, by being around those who do it daily work experience can only help you to grow creatively. It helps for both developing new skills, and networking. Work experience, shadowing, internships – do what you think will benefit you.

 2. Finding Inspiration

If the opportunities to volunteer aren’t there, get creative yourself and team up with people around you that inspire you. The Young Collective has been made possible simply due the enthusiasm of a group of people who want to get creative. Want to play music? Gather a few friends, practise playing and going through the creative process, this doesn’t have to be your ultimate goal, but instead gives you a chance to collaborate with like-minded people. You can learn a lot from those around you.

 

3. University vs Apprenticeships?

It’s an ongoing debate, but the panel agreed they both have benefits. You have to do what works for you, are your friends going to University, but you don’t feel it’s right for you? Hey that’s ok! Seek the experiences that build your portfolio and showcase you in your best light. If you’re progressively learning to be the best you can be, then it’s your choice to choose which route you go down.

4. No Template for the Perfect CV

No consensus from the panel on the perfect CV.  This goes to show there is no perfect CV, instead tailor your CV to the job. Your CV has to be relevant to the job you’re applying for, and illustrates the skills you have required for the job. This could mean you have two completely different CV’s for two different jobs…perfect! Take your time in knowing what they’re asking for, the important thing to remember is that the employer wants a taste of who you are and what you can bring to the company, if that summer cleaning job isn’t relevant don’t put it!

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Life on the Road: An Interview with Tom Hawkes

I spoke to 23-year-old Tom Hawkes, who’s determination at pursuing a dream career in music has allowed him to work alongside Mallory Knox, Neck Deep and at some of the UK’s biggest music festivals such as Download, Slam Dunk and Reading and Leeds. Amongst being a guitar technician, tour manager and driver for his company Road Hawk Touring, we talked about Tom’s dreams of his recent band Led by Lanterns becoming a success and what motivates him to carry on doing what he loves day in day out.

Everybody’s wanted to be in a band at some point in their lives, to be the leading frontman and steal the show, and since I’ve known Tom – from the days he tried to teach me guitar in secondary school – he’s always been an enthusiastic music fan. He explains: “I’ve been singing since the age of 5 in the Welsh Eisteddfods and I was always very involved in school productions, but it wasn’t until I started playing guitar at 11 that all I wanted to do was music. At 16 I had a stage where I debated joining the military following in family footsteps, but decided against it. And I’m glad I did.” He’s been touring since and adds: “University was on the cards but this was the turning point where I felt I couldn’t not pursue it, and I don’t regret a thing.”

Having taken on so many different jobs inside the music industry I asked Tom what his main focus is right now, and admittedly I didn’t expect any other answer: “My dream will always be to play on stage, hopefully that will never change. The band is definitely my main focus. Eventually one will have to over-take the other and in all honesty I hope it’s the band that does the over-taking.” Although he remains determined on making the band work he understands the reality of wanting to pursue such a difficult dream: “The only problem is, the band doesn’t pay the bills, yet, touring does! I’m still trying to find the right balance between the two.” Admittedly, Tom points out that he refused to get a crappy 9-5 job and goes on to say: “One of the other main reasons I got into tour managing, teching, and driving was to gain experience on the business side of music, ultimately I believe I’m a lot more clued up than I was when I was just playing a band. If the situation arose in a few years that the band wasn’t going anywhere, with the touring business I’d at least have something stable that I enjoyed to come back to and carry on with.”

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No matter what you do in life there’s always going to be challenges you’re going to have to face, but Tom has no regrets at the path he’s chosen to taken: “I haven’t really questioned it, that’s not to say there hasn’t been obstacles. Age I think can sometimes be the biggest obstacle for young people in the music industry, older people tend not to take them as seriously. I like to try and make an impression that would make the person think ‘You know what? It really doesn’t matter how old you are.’ It’s definitely more about your personality and your work ethic in this industry.” Even with six years of experience, there’s still so much for him to look forward to: “It’s a cool feeling when people are shocked at how young you are because you’re doing well at something you love, it’s a subtle hint that you’re doing something right.” As all rock’n’roll stories go when it comes to relationships Tom falls straight into the category of unsuccessful ones “I’ve always struggled with it because every time the music comes first, although, I don’t regret it, I’m still young and I’m building something that I’m proud of.”

Coming from a small town in Mid-Wales and anybody who’s also come from there can agree there’s a little chance of striving in a career of music, but sometimes it can be hard to just up and leave. Now living in Birmingham Tom claims it couldn’t have worked out better: “I always knew I was going to move someday, I just didn’t know when that time would come. I started doing the tour driving when I was still back in Wales, it was ok but it was just awkward to get anywhere and it sometimes put people off with me having to drive all those extra miles to pick them up.” Although Tom and fellow band member Chris were the first to make the big move, their drummer Shaun soon joined and now the whole band resides under one roof: “The mix of people we have in this band is great, a lot of bands wouldn’t be able to stand living together but it’s been good for us so far, and in all honesty I don’t think the songs we’re writing would be anywhere near as good if we couldn’t stay up until 6am writing them then stumble to bed 2 doors down the corridor. Another benefit is its made me love my hometown more – I really look forward to visiting home, whereas before I couldn’t wait to leave. ”

With friends, family and a positive circle of people, Tom emphasises he’s been lucky enough to be surrounded by those that push him to keep going. Unfortunately there’s always going to be a few who will  always question what you’re doing but he illustrates those are those back in the small town of Tywyn “It’s those that spend all their wages in the pub and will probably never leave the place, I definitely don’t lose sleep over that.”

An expansion along side Road Hawk Touring is Tom’s group ‘Band pads’ which now has over 2,000 members across the country and is becoming well known as ‘The College’ across the world. “The whole putting bands up is great, and as stupid as it may sound I’m really passionate about it.” This now well-connected community happened as result of past experience: “I was looking for tour accommodation one day last year and I just realised there was no where people could help each other out with places to stay whilst on smaller budget tours. Staying in hotels every night just isn’t an option when you’re getting paid pennies for a show. People have been letting us crash on their floors for years, so for us to now be able to do it on a  whole other level is insane!”

Unfortunately, its the harsh reality that if a band isn’t successful they have to take on day jobs alongside practising: “We’re all different ages and we all have jobs outside the band, but we’re in the process of turning our hobbies and passions into careers. Between us we have a good little touring crew; we have a tour manager/guitar tech/driver, a videographer a sound engineer. When I can, I try and help get them out on the road with me or with other people because as mentioned earlier being on the road makes you more business minded and at the end of the day you have to treat being in a band like a business because that’s the reality of it.” I asked whether he thinks this can sometimes dishearten people who are trying or have been trying for years to get somewhere “Yeah, definitely, there’s been times in the past before I started the touring job where I’ve thought about sacking it all in.” Positively he then says “but those feelings are only temporary and if you’re made for it you’ll always come out the other side with a new idea or a new way to get over it. People need to stop wasting time asking “Why?” they haven’t made it yet and think “How?” are they going to go about it this time?”

Although Tom’s learnt a lot as the years have gone by and he’s by no means an expert in the industry he does have some advice for those who are passionate about what they’re doing: “just take a risk and do what you have to do before it’s too late. Life is far too short to sit around worrying when you could be out there doing what you love.” Talking specifically about the band side of things he mentions how important patience is: “so many people are caught up in getting all the fancy merchandise and going on loads of ‘tours.’ Ultimately, it boils down to how good the songs are, make sure the music is what you want it to be before even considering showing it to the world. Knowing your surroundings is always a great advantage. I’d say I’m definitely a lot more hesitant to taking up show and tour offers now then I was when I was 18.”

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Carrying on from this, I subtly asked what was next for him and Led by Lanterns “We’re releasing a new single in the next few weeks which is part of a really inspiring campaign which is aimed at fighting knife crime, I don’t want to give too much away yet but hopefully you’ll be seeing and hearing it about.” Referring to the subject of touring he states the band are happy how they are in this moment in time and are in no rush to get out there : “I don’t really see a point until we’re offered the right tour that will benefit us. We toured so much in the old band, we had an amazing time, but we lost so much money in the long run and no one is in the position to do that anymore. Every band goes through it at some point, you’re naïve when you first start out, you can’t just skip the local band stage. All in all, I think we’re being more cautious and clever this time around. We have this conversation about the balance between the love of the music and the money a lot in our band.” He quickly responds to being offered rammed shows for pennies by saying “Of course I would, the most important thing to us is gaining fans and you’re not going to do that by not playing your music to people, whether it be online or live. It’s all about finding the right balance I guess, you have to put the graft in, but also need to be smart about not getting messed about.” With the passion and determination these guys have I have no doubt their future is looking like a bright one.

Check out Led by Lantern’s video for their first single ‘Recovery’

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdOlno47z54

You can also find them on Facebook at Led by Lanterns

https://www.facebook.com/ledbylanterns/